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233: Tolerating Discomfort As A White Person Confronting Racism & White Supremacy

In this week’s episode host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C discusses how the Window of Tolerance and Polyvagal Theory play a role in white people’s reactions to confronting our roles in racism. Laura offers “Window of Tolerance 101” to explain hyperarousal and hypoarousal, and how our bodies and brains respond to threats. She describes Deb Dana’s Polyvagal Ladder concept as well. Laura reflects upon her own complicity in upholding the systems of oppression that support white supremacy and what she has begun to understand while reading “White Fragility” by Dr. Robin DiAngelo. She reads from an article sharing thoughts of black therapists that are offered to white therapists. She offers resources for white people understanding more and getting started with making a difference.

“White Therapists, Here’s What Your Black Colleagues Want You To Know,” from Psychotherapy Networker:

Rachel Cargle’s The Loveland Foundation:

Contribute to Laura’s fundraiser for The Loveland Foundation:

Rachel Cargle’s Public Address on Revolution from 5/3/20:

Deepa Iyer’s Map of Social Change Roles:

Eddie Moore, Jr’s 21 Day Challenge:

Dr. Robin DiAngelo’s book White Fragility:

Laura’s interview with Deb Dana on Polyvagal Theory:


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June 12, 2020

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Laura Reagan, LCSW-C

Laura Reagan, LCSW-C is an integrative trauma therapist and owner of a group practice, the Baltimore Annapolis Center for Integrative Healing. She is also the host of Therapy Chat and Trauma Chat podcasts and the founder of the Trauma Therapist Network, a website for learning information about trauma and finding resources and help for trauma.

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