In this week’s episode, host Laura Reagan LCSW-C interviews guest Dr. Odelya Gertel Kraybill. Odelya is a highly experienced trauma therapist and trainer who has worked with survivors of trauma all over the world. In this discussion you will hear:

– What we must do for self-care during a time like this – tips we can share with our clients as well

– When to do trauma therapy and when to do crisis intervention/Psychological First Aid

– What many therapists don’t realize about how we need to work differently during the current crisis

– Odelya describes her Expressive Trauma Integration framework and the elements of her approach to crisis work, which is most appropriate for our current time.

Dr. Odelya Gertel Kraybill, Ph.D., LCPC, ACS has worked as a consultant and trauma therapist for the UN and NGOs around the world. A Fulbright scholar, she conducted research in the Philippines, Lesotho, and Israel, that led to the development of Expressive Trauma Integration (ETI), an integrative approach to trauma treatment. She has led workshops, taught, and presented in the U.S., Canada, Lesotho, South Africa, Japan, China, Philippines and South Korea. She is a graduate adjunct faculty member at the George Washington University art therapy program and is widely recognized as a blogger on stress and trauma on Psych Central. Kraybill uses the ETI approach in providing consultation, training, supervision, psychotherapy, and e-consultation. She also maintains a private practice for survivors of developmental and complex trauma.

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April 16, 2020

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Laura Reagan, LCSW-C

Laura Reagan, LCSW-C is an integrative trauma therapist and owner of a group practice, the Baltimore Annapolis Center for Integrative Healing. She is also the host of Therapy Chat and Trauma Chat podcasts and the founder of the Trauma Therapist Network, a website for learning information about trauma and finding resources and help for trauma.

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