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Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This week, host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C interviews therapist Brenda Stephens, LPCC, who is the author of two books on narcissistic abuse: Healing from Narcissistic Mothers: A Daughter’s Recovery Guide; and The Narcissism Recovery Workbook: Skills for Healing from Emotional Abuse. In this episode you will hear Laura and Brenda discuss:

  • What Narcissistic Abuse is
  • What therapists need to know about Narcissistic Abuse
  • How surviving this type of abuse affects us during childhood and as adults
  • The process of healing from Narcissistic Abuse

Brenda Stephens is a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor in San Diego, CA. She works exclusively with those seeking help in resolving their experienced trauma. Brenda specializes in working with those who have been in relationships with narcissists and are recovering from the emotional, and sometimes physical, wounds they have endured in their relationships. Brenda has been working with this population for several years and is providing groups, workshops, and trainings in order to make this topic more known and understood by practitioners and survivors of narcissistic abuse, alike.

With the use of EMDR, parts work, and an understanding of Structural Dissociation, Ms Stephens is able to help those suffering with symptoms of trauma, Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Ms. Stephens is the founder and owner of Stephens Therapy Associates which consists of eighteen therapists who have been trained by her to offer support, guidance, and a path toward healing for survivors of narcissistic abuse. She recently completed a three year term as Board Member and Secretary for the California Association for Licensed Professional Clinical Counselors (CALPCC) and continues to offer support on panels and trainings offered by CALPCC.

Ms. Stephens is the author of the books “Healing from Narcissistic Mothers: A Daughter’s Recovery Guide” and “The Narcissism Recovery Workbook: Skills for Healing from Emotional Abuse.” These books are designed to help people understand what narcissistic relationships look like and how to recover from them. Brenda offers trainings to other therapists in recognizing and working with this population which is woefully underserved. She holds a Master’s in Mental Health Counseling from the University of Wisconsin – Stout.


Learn more about Brenda’s work with survivors of Narcissistic Abuse at:

Washington state residents wanting to work with Brenda can visit the therapy website at:

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Original Date

January 13, 2022

About the Host

Laura Reagan, LCSW-C

Laura Reagan, LCSW-C is an integrative trauma therapist and owner of a group practice, the Baltimore Annapolis Center for Integrative Healing. She is also the host of Therapy Chat and Trauma Chat podcasts and the founder of the Trauma Therapist Network, a website for learning information about trauma and finding resources and help for trauma.

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