Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This month we have been talking about self care and secondary traumatic stress/burnout. Today host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C revisits an interview from 2016 with Laura van Dernoot Lipsky, who is the author of the classic bestseller, “Trauma Stewardship: An everyday guide to caring for self while caring for others,” and a newer book, “The Age of Overwhelm: Strategies for the long haul.” She also has a fabulous TED Talk entitled “Beyond the Cliff.” See below for links to these resources. 

In this episode you’ll hear the two Lauras discussing trauma exposure, an occupational hazard for those in the helping professions and something that has affected many of us who are caregivers, even if that is not what we do for work. You’ll hear about how to come back from secondary traumatic stress, vicarious trauma and burnout. Laura van Dernoot Lipsky shares what helped her when she reached the point of knowing she needed a break from trauma work. Whether you are there, or wanting to prevent getting to that point, you will find hope and resources for healing in this episode.

Resources for this episode:

Trauma Stewardship: An everyday guide to caring for self while caring for others

The Age of Overwhelm: Strategies for the long haul

TED Talk: Beyond the Cliff

Trauma Stewardship Institute

Check out Laura van Dernoot Lipsky’s new podcast, Future Tripping!

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Also, after many requests from listeners, Erika Shershun, LMFT and I are co-creating a course on Healing Sexual Trauma which is intended for release in September, 2022. Get on the interest list here and receive a free copy of Erika’s e-book, The Many Ways to Ground, which will teach you several somatically-oriented practices to get grounded. We will make sure to let you know when the course is on sale! 

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August 26, 2022

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Laura Reagan, LCSW-C

Laura Reagan, LCSW-C is an integrative trauma therapist and owner of a group practice, the Baltimore Annapolis Center for Integrative Healing. She is also the host of Therapy Chat and Trauma Chat podcasts and the founder of the Trauma Therapist Network, a website for learning information about trauma and finding resources and help for trauma.

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